tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post6773549085447169357..comments2024-01-02T16:42:15.732-05:00Comments on Redlines and Deadlines: The Misplaced MaidenheadECPI Editorshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569261288668237013noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-36289238141533781072010-07-12T20:19:30.508-04:002010-07-12T20:19:30.508-04:00By the way, looking at the pics of the hymens on t...By the way, looking at the pics of the hymens on the link provided was interesting...it definitely gives you an idea of why some women might find it incredibly painful the first time, and maybe bleed some more, while others are relatively unaffected their first time. Can you imagine if you had the rare condition of a hymen with no hole in it, compared to a normal one? Ouch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-52710836178577991542010-07-12T20:10:39.613-04:002010-07-12T20:10:39.613-04:00Sorry, girls, I have to disagree with some of what...Sorry, girls, I have to disagree with some of what has been said. I can't speak for other women, but I have slammed onto that stupid girl-bike bar (OW,OW,OW!), used tampons, had at least one (really painful)cervical examination, and had some forms of sexual activity (without intercourse...'nuff said) before I got married, and I definitely still had my hymen in place. Our first time, it was extremely uncomfortable for me until he got past that "barrier". Both he and I could feel it, and the resistance it gave, and then the sensation of it giving way. He had to be very gentle that first time. After that, it was never a problem. Seems like it must be really stretchy. As to the bleeding issue (TMI warning!), it was the tail end of my period, so I couldn't accurately answer that, but there was little to speak of, anyway. So at least in my experience, the hymen can be a lot tougher than one might imagine. That being said, I've never heard of anyone having tons of blood, nor can I imagine your whole body "screaming in pain". Just that one part. But when it's happening, and it's your first time, and you're kinda scared, that's more than enough! ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-40977349605533565752009-04-29T12:30:00.000-04:002009-04-29T12:30:00.000-04:00I think you've hit it, Joanna. This is such a well...I think you've hit it, Joanna. This is such a well-established error, used to be so common in romances, that most people don't think about it when they read it, don't realize it is wrong. It's just commonly accepted -- but we need to stop it, because not only is it not correct, but it does overflow into women's "real" perceptions, and far too many cultures and people put inaccurate emphasis on these supposed signs of virginity.<br /><br />I had a wonderful time creating that little example scene - it was like I was channelling the spirits of historical romance authors of twenty years ago.<br /><br />RaeleneECPI Editorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569261288668237013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-44859178223984770832009-04-29T08:24:00.000-04:002009-04-29T08:24:00.000-04:00A very typical scene I see a lot:
(They've been h...A very typical scene I see a lot:<br /><br />(They've been having lots of fingerplay and stimulation, so it's not like she's never been touched.)<br /><br />"His hard and hot shaft pushed part way inside her. "Forgive me," he said again. He plunged the steel rod into her swiftly, tearing her, shooting a pain from her core to the top of her head. He muffled her scream with his mouth."<br /><br />Whole body pain and screaming? Honestly, didn't happen that way for me or for any of my female friends.<br /><br />SerenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-74671463006634456052009-04-28T12:48:00.000-04:002009-04-28T12:48:00.000-04:00Thanks for the post, Raelene. This is an importan...Thanks for the post, Raelene. This is an important topic for historical writers. And I will confess to ignorance, once upon a time, to the location of a woman's pesky maidenhead. We've all read far too many books by authors who suffer under the same misinformation.Joanna Waughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053211782268427159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-8249926864624774902009-04-28T10:41:00.000-04:002009-04-28T10:41:00.000-04:00I cannot remember one with the "internal barrier",...I cannot remember one with the "internal barrier", but some of the names they give the female sex in books is a riot.<br /><br />My favorite thus far was "creaming vat". If you need to use the word vat to describe yourself, you best get yourself to a doctor.Marissahttp://marissaturner.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-85427450500426606942009-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:002009-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:00Yeah Anon...that would have scared me off sex fore...Yeah Anon...that would have scared me off sex forever had I read that during the Virgin Years. Ha!<br /><br />Kelli CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-41411973187040170762009-04-28T08:51:00.000-04:002009-04-28T08:51:00.000-04:00And then there's the mid-18th century classic erot...And then there's the mid-18th century classic erotica, "Fanny Hill". Our Heroine is a 15-year-old farm girl come to the wicked big city, and ends up in a brothel.<br /><br />"after several vigorous pushes which hurt me extremely, he made not the least impression."<br /><br />"he pierced something further into me"<br /><br />Fanny has been screaming in pain all this time, but now passes out.<br /><br />"my thighs were instantly all in a stream of blood"<br /><br />It takes her two days to recover, before she can even walk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-39080706665249997122009-04-27T11:44:00.000-04:002009-04-27T11:44:00.000-04:00THANK YOU! I did a rant on this on my blog last y...THANK YOU! I did a rant on this on my blog last year. I have actually thrown books across the room because of those scenes. Even big name authors get it wrong unfortunately.Leah Braemelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05926632511671914080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-12137269475076019102009-04-27T09:36:00.000-04:002009-04-27T09:36:00.000-04:00I was thinking the same thing. Women are murdered ...I was thinking the same thing. Women are murdered in this strange world of ours for not having that little membrane in tact. <br /><br />Most girls lose it while playing sports anyway. If you've ever slid off a bicycle the wrong way and onto that bar they seem hell bent to give girls, you'll definitely lose it too. <br /><br />I can't think of a scene right off hand that could top the one you've posted, but I do sometimes wonder at the number of scenes where the heroine has an orgasm based on vaginal stimulation only. The vast majority of women need direct clitoral stimulation to achieve orgasm. A little realism would indeed be nice from time to time. lolTess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-89765291104674682252009-04-27T09:35:00.000-04:002009-04-27T09:35:00.000-04:00My favorite was a book in which the heroine had be...My favorite was a book in which the heroine had been fingered multiple times during the course of wild three-way sex but still provided a barrier for the hero the first time he penetrated her with his penis. Really? Must have been one tough maidenhead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983687699975451453.post-32229917085559098402009-04-27T08:15:00.000-04:002009-04-27T08:15:00.000-04:00Seriously, I don't know anyone who can even rememb...Seriously, I don't know anyone who can even remember any pain or blood at their 'deflowering.'<br /><br />The horrific thing is that girls are murdered in some parts of the world for not bleeding the first time as proof of virginity. Of course, considering they have no choice in who they marry, maybe they want to die anyway.Kimber Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982239712083114488noreply@blogger.com